Refusing to accept call

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Refusing to accept call

Postby Frank Manning » Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:59 am

Mr. Jerry,
Can a judge refuse to accept a call if he does not hear a dog?

Example: 3 dogs treed, while scoring tree 4th dog declared treed. Handler pulls dog off tree and only original 2 dogs heard treeing. Fourth dog can not be heard from. Handler of dog on leash wants to recast his dog. Other 2 handlers want him to stay on the leash because all dogs are declared treed. On the way to first dog the 4th dog was heard locating but only its handler heard it treeing. How do you score this situation?
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Re: Refusing to accept call

Postby Jerry Moll » Mon Jul 24, 2017 11:27 am

Frank Manning wrote:Mr. Jerry,
Can a judge refuse to accept a call if he does not hear a dog?

Example: 3 dogs treed, while scoring tree 4th dog declared treed. Handler pulls dog off tree and only original 2 dogs heard treeing. Fourth dog can not be heard from. Handler of dog on leash wants to recast his dog. Other 2 handlers want him to stay on the leash because all dogs are declared treed. On the way to first dog the 4th dog was heard locating but only its handler heard it treeing. How do you score this situation?

A judge does not have an option to refuse a call or to not except a call, except in very limited circumstances. If a judge is out in the open and in a position to hear the dog when a handler strikes or trees it, it's the judge's responsibility to minus those strike or tree points, if the dog is not heard.
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Re: Refusing to accept call

Postby Morris Anderson » Sun Jul 30, 2017 5:11 pm

What if the cast is shining a tree (pulling vines, squalling while one or more dogs are barking), and a handler calls his dog treed at a different tree but the judge can't hear it while beneath the current tree being scored? Should the handler that just called his dog treed be given the courtesy of stepping out from under the tree a reasonable distance to try and hear the dog just called treed, or should the handler be immediately minused since the judge didn't/couldn't hear the dog at the time called treed?

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Re: Refusing to accept call

Postby Jerry Moll » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:41 pm

Morris Anderson wrote:What if the cast is shining a tree (pulling vines, squalling while one or more dogs are barking), and a handler calls his dog treed at a different tree but the judge can't hear it while beneath the current tree being scored? Should the handler that just called his dog treed be given the courtesy of stepping out from under the tree a reasonable distance to try and hear the dog just called treed, or should the handler be immediately minused since the judge didn't/couldn't hear the dog at the time called treed?

Morris, in the scenario you describe, most of the responsibility is with the handler. If a handler just up and trees their dog under these circumstances, he is taking a big risk. In any hard to hear situation, a smart handler will always ask the judge if he can hear the dog before striking or treeing it. In this situation, the judge may go out of his way to step away from the tree and try to hear the dog.
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